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[Music] hello everyone and welcome to ready VIP podcast my name is Emanuel class I'm your host for today and joining me are none other than Chris King and Ben seagull founders of crave Daddy hey everybody nice to be here with you today hey everybody happy to be here glad to have you both on the first time I met you we had a instant connection and I was like hey guys you should start a podcast and you were like hey Emanuel you should start a podcast with us and boom ready VIP was born uh but this is also an opportunity for us to come together and talk about music to talk about festivals to interview some of the amazing DJs that we meet along the way and to also talk about what Rave daddy is and what it means for the community absolutely Chris I would like you guys to first introduce yourselves a little bit to get the opportunity for the community to know who you are and what you're into what you're about so why don't you start us out sure and I usually would start us out because I love talking but because I love Ben so much I'm going to let him go first first all right well hello everybody again so my name is Ben seagull uh I am the technical co-founder uh developer behind Rave daddy uh lifelong dance music EDM hip-hop head all the things just absolutely love music uh background is in development uh but also just making the best experiences for people and uh that's in a lot of different markets and so um I'm here to just um bring that experience in and and share some of that story and uh help people connect and and be safe Play Hard Play Safe Chris all you beautiful thanks buddy uh well as Ben said my name is Chris I'm the other co-founder of Rave daddy and you know some out there would say you should have a technical co-founder and a non-technical co-founder uh but I think you know I'm a little techy so uh you know I handle everything on the Rave daddy business side related to social media anything under the umbrella of marketing and sales and business development and all that good stuff uh you know really my background is uh inch and I you know from Verizon to startups to hardware and Android customizable tablets and social media analytics I've been around the block in the startup world so it was nice to be able to get to with Ben and you know finally create something of our own as you could say so on the Instagram page when you see the Kappy bar with the bucket hat on that's Chris who's talking to you he's full Kappy Bara it is it is I don't have a bucket hat right now but I I should soon rookie mistake I know sorry hopefully by Friday I really love the concept behind the Rave daddy app I think it's really neat and I would like to hear a little bit more about where the idea comes from Chris do you want to start us out this time or are you going to pass the buck to B again sure no I won't pass the buck every time I'll go ahead and take it this time so back in March well let me go back a little bit further so Ben and I a little bit in the in the time machine if you would or the way back machine um so Ben and I met each other what Ben probably eight years ago give or take uh just about yeah PR close yeah yeah we can give them the credit they probably deserve because our sons will never let us live down that they are the reason we met a the sons read at a bus stop going to school together Ben and I were the two dads down at the bus stop but being in Tech and being a little awkward for a while uh you know we'd be around and then we'd slowly talk about a thing and then you know a year later we finally became friends U but it was because our our boys are talked about OverWatch the video game Non-Stop and so that kicked it off from there though you know Ben and I would always partner together right we'd talk business together we'd go on long walks and just talk about life and you know what was going on and we'd always bounced ideas off of each other from a business perspective but finally finally in March this last year in 2024 after Ben and I actually had a we already had the startup business together we had already been working on a different idea together but honestly we weren't madly in love with it is that fair to say Ben totally all right perfect so uh you know we we were able to go to a concert or a festival together finally uh without friends family you know kids what have you it was just Ben and I and so we can dive into at a later episode kind of what brought that experience together and what else came out of it for now though we'll focus on Rave Daddy and so when we were at rooll loud we had an amazing time it was in LA it was in March doesn't get much better than that people had a fantastic time but we also saw people who were not having a great time and so you know Ben do you want to take it from there and dive in a little bit deeper yeah absolutely thank you so like Chris said we were out rowing loud having a blast and it was the first time he and I had ever gotten able to go out do something just the two of us without our kids wies the whole thing so um had a great time and as Chris mentioned uh we're looking around and there are so many Pig pockets and there's fights breaking out all over the place and there are lot of people on substances that they probably weren't familiar with or weren't expecting the reaction that they got and so there were some really scary situations and um as a couple days rolled on Chris and I started talking more and more about it and uh like Chris mentioned we had already been kind of going through planning something working on some prototypes and all uh but it was for something we just weren't passionate about it was very similar to what we do in our day jobs and um what we saw was a need around us and uh Chris and I both just love the scene love music and we started talking about it and it just was very apparent that um I think there was a little over a thousand people that were working security uh in assistance at rolling loud and there was over 100,000 people that were at rolling L and so you've got about one person for every hundred at best and uh there just had to be a better way to help your friends coordinate things so that was kind of what sent the whole Boulder down the hill so to speak and got us on our way a if that isn't the most plur story two guys meet they take a year to become friends standing next to each other uh finally after holding hands they get to hang out go to a concert Alone Together very plur right and then they just they have a good time but then they see other people who aren't having as good a time as they are and so what do they do they create a business to help other people have a good time together and a safe time together I think that's one of the really neat things about Rave Daddy it's what immediately attracted me to you guys's idea was that you know as a r daddy myself right I like to take people to events and make sure they're safe and that they're having a good time and everybody gets Trinkets and is hydrated and has water and finds their side quest and comes back but not everybody has a me right not everybody has somebody to bring them together to help them organize and to keep them safe and I think that's the really neat thing about the Rave daddy app is that it is your Brave Daddy it's your your OverWatch it's your safety net it's somebody watching your back so that you can have the best time possible and I just I think that's really neat so what made you choose Rave Daddy what made you go in that direction oo well I can start off by saying that it definitely did not start immediately that way uh so as we were coming up with this idea right and we were spining up different ideas there was an original name that I'm not even going to talk about ever because it's we we don't dead name anything around here so we're going to go ahead and let Ben kind of get into the ethos because I know you know it is something he is incredibly passionate about and it means a lot to him and there before it means a lot to me a thanks brother um so you guys can see right here I got my Florida hat on Florida Marlins back in the day Miami Marlins now but I'm a Florida kid I grew up there born there raised there Miami is kind of where my Hub was and um yeah as Chris mentioned uh EDM very much the core of my social life growing up abely love the scene and uh went to Europe we followed it over there for a while and had a great time and so um as Chris and I were talking about what this app would do and what we wanted it to do and kind of knowing the the state of where things are in the EDM scene and and music in general um I had this idea for R daddy uh just the name r Daddy and um we thought about Rave dad and we had some other so like Chris said there's some other names in there as well but um Rave Daddy was our way of connecting the dots and it was a little tongue and cheek a little playful but really ultimately it's about the idea of being there for people like you said you know just um wanting to make sure people are taken care of um it's crazy I have a 21y old daughter now and she is now in the rav scene herself and I obviously am not going to the same Raves that she goes to so but I do want you know her to still peace you know PE of me with her and you know somebody looking her and so this in a lot of ways was inspired by you know Chris and I having kids and wanting to uh should say that having our own individual set of C but anyways um but you know that love that we have so a lot of this whole idea came from the fact that Chris and I have kids and like I said my daughter being in the Rave scene I just wanted there to be that piece of us that was with them and keeping them safe and you know doing anything that we could to just keep an eye out for them obviously you know as they traveling and all the better we can share that with other people and um The Hope just being that this isn't just about preventing bad things this is also about giving people um that feeling that hey I can go to a concert I can go to a music festival I can communicate with people that uh normally at a music festival might be a lot harder to get a hold of and I can be safe and so that was really what kind of brought this all together and and sent us down this path of raped at awesome I absolutely love that and I think you hit something right there on the end right communication at these big festivals is not always the easiest some of them have you know relays that get you connected to their Wi-Fi or their 5G but not all of them do and then even still you go to these big ones like you mentioned rolling loud or you go to EDC and there's no signal because you're competing with you know a 100,000 other signals in that city right at that moment and so let's talk technical aspects here let's talk turkey there's some really awesome things going on with this app what are some of the features and how does it work yeah absolutely well I can kick this off then I'll give it over to Ben for the technical details uh but at a high level right what this application is going to allow you to do is it's going to allow you to set it up without providing a bunch of information about who you are that was really important to us from the get-go we don't want to know all the details about Emanuel or Ben or who you are as a user we don't want to know you know your email address password your contact with and we don't want any of it we're also not going to store any of that stuff so when you go to sign up for the app you just need a phone number that's it uh from there you're able to create a group of users and so if you myself uh you know Ben go to a show like we are on Friday to John Summit AT rahide we can connect as a group we can call it John Summit AT rahide I can go ahead and add you you I can add Ben and it will fire off a message to connect us as a group from there it has a map functionality so as it pings and receives your GPS signal and updates it every so often it'll receive that and like locate you on a map from there also we have an SOS functionality and this is really the heart and soul of this thing like the idea that people need help when they otherwise might not be able to get it or what Ben and I experienced it rolling loud which is people need help but you are now in a sea of people right speaking of 100,000 people 200,000 people sometimes more if you're at like Tomorrowland um you know people get lost and you can't just wave your hands or your lighters anymore like you know may have been effective and so the SOS functionality allows us to grab your GPS send it to your buddy system and then also something that we're working on for down the road is an integration with the event operators so that if we want and if you want as a user you could share that SOS ping with the event staff so you could get the help you actually need when you need it or your friends need it instead of just hoping that you're recognized in a sea of people waving their hands around which just looks like fun anyways so B on that note I'll let you kind of break down anything I missed or any other details yeah absolutely you didn't miss anything but I can definitely elaborate on a couple things all right so like Chris said um there are two specific instances I can think of just from Rolling loud that I really think uted to the idea of the SOS function one was that we had um we were towards the front of one concert and uh one stage and um this young girl was with her friend and she's dragging her friend through the crowd her friend's eyes are as big as saucers I mean just huge pupils are completely dilated and she's just elbowing trying to fight through everybody from the very front make it all the way to the back trying to get to the tent easily uh you know 10 15 maybe even 20,000 people at in the front of the biggest stage they had wow and so you know that that thought stayed with me like this girl was doing everything she could trying to get her friend to safety and just keep talking to her friend trying to keep her engaged and her friend is just out of it and so and then the other story was um there we were at another the same stage but another event and um there is a young man probably this mid 20 or so um he was partying having a good time and he started to get woozy he falls down thankfully didn't his head um but he's down and and everybody's just kind of standing around him and people are shouting you know mad call for things but you're concert nobody's hearing anything it's daytime so the flashlight thing is not working there's just nothing going on everybody's just standing there um so I'm I'm there with Chris and we're watching long enough and he comes back up and you know probably four or five minutes he stands up he's okay for a second then he does it again and he falls down and this time he somebody was able to catch him just enough before he hit the ground so he didn't smack his head on that cement and at that point I took off and went to the Medics and and grabbed them and brought somebody back with me to get to him um it was in those two events that something like SOS needed to happen it was very clear there has to be a better wi and so uh to Chris's Point um what we're really trying to do here it's not about the data um the only thing that we need is your phone number and that's just because that's how the app is set up so that we can share information between you and whoever you decide to share it with um we're not selling anything um it's really as minimal as possible and because it's so small and so light that's a big reason why it is able to work at these events even when a lot of other apps fall um you know was just telling Chris yesterday um it's all of 19 megabytes which is a very small size for package uh compared to 300 400 for other apps um that do social media engagement things like that so the idea here is that we're we're a fraction of the size and we are trying to make sure that people have that connection able to utilize those functions in that way that functionality awesome and you know it's set up to be user friendly too I've seen some of the beta and it's like gigantic big SOS button right you can't miss it and that's one of the best cuz been there right like we've all been there we're adults we've had a good time and here in Arizona dehydration alone can get you you can just be outside in a crowd of people and sweat yourself to the point where you're ready to pass out where you're like I'm getting blurry vision I don't feel you know good anymore I'm starting to feel nauseous maybe I want to throw up and then you can add any substance on top of that and not feel great you can be at that point and drink water and not feel great you're so dehydr even the water's coming back up right and at that point you can grab your phone and hit SOS and it doesn't matter it's a gigantic pink button right it's going to call your friends it's going to let people know that you need help and as I understand it one of the you know future possibilities is that this is integrated with the festivals when you know they can hit that same signal and find you in the crowd and help you get to the EMTs or help pull you out to safety and that's huge yeah it's something that was really really important to us right and we knew that not everybody would want to have that functionality or have that connection to events right but having the option there if you want it and it's again it's not sending who you are or what problem did you have to them nothing like that it's very simply hey you a manw TR triggered the SOS and now it's just going to send up your GPS location saying hey there's a person having a problem and they're over here and in the future there's ideas to develop a heat map right so if instead of having one person in a porta potty having an issue right we have 10 people 20 people set off an SOS because there's a giant fight or something worse then that will blow up on the heat map kind of like you can see on Snapchat and other popular applications in their heat map system and so the staff will know where there is an absolutely urgent matter versus maybe something that's you know a little bit little bit less urgent I like what you bring up there too where like maybe you don't necessarily use it for yourself but it could save somebody else's life maybe you set it off because something going on around you and somebody nearby needs help I mean like my wife is all of 5 foot tall right and if somebody were to pass out in front of her she's not dragging them out and I can think of lots of people who are at festivals who have that same experience where they're like I don't know what to do I can't help this person but there are people there who can right and even maybe somebody in your group can and so being able to send an SOS and say this is where the thing is happening that's huge yeah absolutely well I like to sign off with something positive something a little fun and I think this would be a great opportunity for us to just divert a little bit of our time into favorite Festival experience because there are so many good memories that come out of festivals not all of them are you know needing the SOS button some of them are just finding your friends after an amazing side quest because you had a great place to go see you wanted to go to different stages you know I wouldn't want anybody in my group to miss their favorite artist because I didn't want to miss you know one of my favorite artists but you need to be able to find each other again and not everybody's as organized uh as your Rave Daddy might be where there it's like hey time and place this is where you're supposed to be it's like oh wait a minute what time was that I don't remember where are we supposed to be and what stage is this the stage or was that the stage I don't know right and so there are amazing Festival experiences that I'm sure we've all had and I know that both of you have had Ben what's your favorite Festival experience oh man um I would say gosh just been a lot definitely something I'd love there been like a whole segment of podcast on 60 seconds that's all you get go uh you know I would say concert wise and I know it's not necessarily Festival concert wise I would say uh St Kanye West back in the day um this is like 2004 2005 uh at MTSU Middle Tennessee State University uh outside of nationville tennessy uh this is from his first album uhy little area uh I think it was all of uh 1500 seats or something like that was really small um and so getting to see him in there at that point in his career and all one of my absolute favorite memories um and then I'd also have to say like game to share it with my family uh the very first concert we ever did as a family was a Fallout Boy my daughter was going through a whole phas um so we all went to a Fallout Boy which it was a hell of a show it was a great time I was in Memphis Tennessee um so we had a great time over there and definitely some really good memories from there awesome Chris 60 seconds go all right 60 seconds I'll try to be very fast but also very thrilling so back in my younger years I grew up in the Pacific Northwest in the Seattle area in Seattle around 20022 2003 we had the White River Amphitheater open in the Auburn Washington area in that area my now wife uh back in her high school days our high school days uh worked for a coffee stand over in that area called Java Junction and Java Junction had a coffee stand up at the White River Amphitheater and so because of that job in that company I got a ticket to go to osfest the very first year it happened at White River Amphitheater nice yeah buddy and all I had to do is like run and go get ice when they needed ice and thankfully since it was the Pacific Northwest it was not as often as you would think in Arizona so it was great I'd grab some ice I'd drop it off and then I'd go right back to the show that's amazing I love it and I love the diversity there you know I got to go to ozfest like 2004 you know date myself a little bit um but my most favorite experience also tying back to Rav daddyy a little bit was more recently so you know U my wife and I we started to get back into the scene because marshmallow did a popup here when the Super Bowl was in Arizona and it was amazing the music was amazing nightmare to marshmallow was great and so that night we met like some of my best friends massud neon who were like hey come to Gold Rush with us and after gold rush I was like all right Relentless beats knows how to do it's like you know the Disney World of uh adults right where you're just like there's festivals there's people in costume there's so much to do there's great food and so I won VIP passes to decadence and oh boy decadence was incredible and on day one the like final three lineup was John Summit to Steve aoke to subtronics and boy it was Ryden the adrenaline train the whole way and that lineup is still like to this day probably the best lineup I've ever seen back to back to back that whole show was just incredible but I had one resounding problem with the show and like Rave daddy would have just solved it it was an absolutely massive crowd those kind of names draw so many people and I had to pee so bad but I didn't want to lose my friends I don't want to lose my wife I I don't want to lose the spot we have right and so where do you go what do you do you're just like well I'm holding it for 6 hours now but I have to stay hydrated but I have to pee but I have to stay hydrated right and you're just caught between this like crowd dilemma and Rave daddy would have just been like oh hey guys I'm going to go pee I'll find you in a little bit oh there you are I see you hello and so I knew instantly that there was a lot of awesome opportunity for this to solve just normal problems that we run into all the time at festivals and I'm so happy we had the opportunity to podcast together and talk about it this is really just the Genesis the epoch of what's to come and uh the beta launches soon we are going to be at John Summit this week yeah Friday night it's GNA be a great time we look forward to seeing anybody who's out there great time um and so we'll get out there and we'll hang out and we'll talk to people and we'll you know run that beta test and so anybody interested in it you can follow Rave Daddy on Instagram on Facebook uh you can go and check out the website and get involved with the beta now is the time to be part of something really cool and it's been a pleasure but we have a new segment coming up next I'm going to be interviewing DJ neelon a local amazing artist here in Arizona who's also going to be playing Gold Rush who played decadence last year and who has just the best plur attitude out of anybody I'll ever meet so without further Ado gentlemen do you want to say roll the music roll the music roll the music nail work on that okay hello everyone my name is Emanuel class and you're joining me for the second segment here on the Rave daddy ready VIP podcast joining me today is none other than DJ neelon himself neelson how you doing I'm doing really well how are you I am awesome I'm so glad to have you on you know we've talked about it before you're such an awesome person and I knew immediately that you would click with what Rave Daddy is trying to do because you have such a great message and so with that um we hashed out a few questions we wanted to ask you here on the ready VIP podcast and you're the VIP today so I love it first I just want to ask you how you doing man how you feeling I'm feeling really good had an amazing Sunday hanging hang out with some friends and we took some pictures together I watched a friend's DJ set which is really cool so awesome yeah that is an amazing day definitely the kind of day I'm trying to have uh so I want to get into these questions because there's no reason for us to like uh dance around the good stuff because this is all about you as our VIP so tell me and the listeners when did you first get into playing music I first got into music when I was actually like five years old my mom um really liked playing the piano um and she put me in some piano lessons um nice let's just say I would fall asleep during my practices because they were pretty boring um so I wanted to play something cooler and I had a friend that played guitar in fifth grade so I wanted to play the guitar and picked it up then and um I did lessons for a few years as well but I really just sort of uh yeah I guess I just wanted to create more than anything um and I was really inspired by a lot of like uh post like hardcore bands and pop bands uh the technicality of stuff they'd play um then I got into Indie music and a lot of things growing up so yeah I I just always played you know instruments um my whole life so that's awesome so when did you decide to take the detour into electronic music so I of course like most of us you know in the two 2010s started going to Raves and music festivals um and really getting immersed in this scene I always really enjoyed it um but when I actually started the neelen project was more the end of 2020 um wanting just to find new purpose in life um I wasn't even writing electronic music I was writing Indie music actually um which I still do to this day and but I decided to mess around and make an electronic song and I really felt like it came really natural and easy to me um because with with band music it's a lot of recording you know the instruments electronic music all the instruments are at your disposal and they sound really good so you could create whatever you wanted and it sounds good in your own um bedroom and so I just started making more and more electronic songs and playing them for my friends um and they love them so I just kind of kept going from there that's awesome being a modern DJ is a lot like being a composer with all of those instruments and like sounds that don't even even come from instruments at your fingertips really you know music is your canvas totally I I agree so what are some of the themes and purposes behind your project because you have uh great stylization and your art and your social medias and your music videos and your stage presence and so it's it's very specifically curated I thank you for saying that um the pretty much it started as a the theme was post breakup you know maybe broke up with someone you didn't or you loved you hurt them there was all these issues and you really just want to show them that you know it wasn't all for nothing so a lot of the songs were about love heartbreak you know I've changed see me for who I am now and I think that's something that a lot of us definitely go through in life where you know we don't always know what we have till it's gone and we have to live with that sort of you know pain and change and and look within um so introspection is a huge theme um reflecting on who you are as a person what are your flaws what are your strengths um so that's what I really wrote about a lot at first and ran with that and um then it kind of developed into okay I got a lot of that out of my system everything was good you know because these are real world things going on you know I can't really write about things that aren't really happening to me so um these are that was a real world situation and in the real world that got healed and everything's fine we're really good friends and now it's okay what's the new theme and it's definitely a lot about empowerment and uh uplifting others around you helping the community and tapping into that side of music that's more um inspiring others around you you know so what does that take and I think that encompasses with all the art but not just the art but the performances um sort of in what's possible and what are my dreams and I'm going after them and you can too and you can have be successful we can all love each other um so I really try to Encompass a community Vibe and um love that's awesome and it sounds like you have like different era of your music influenced by what was going on in your life life what would you say really defines that first era which song of yours is like encapsulating that moment for you I would say the first song would be different is the one that encapsulates because people don't know this or a lot of people don't but I actually made that song when I very first started making electronic music that was my like the one song that to me really stood out um from well I would it's one of them let's just say that and I didn't release it for like two and a half three years later after I wrote it and so that one's always really special to me I love that song that's probably my favorite too I'm I'm a big neelon fan got my neelon hat Emil today the merch showed up just in time for the podcast love it uh it's gorgeous merch by the way thank you so much I appreciate that I was gonna put it on but then I was like ah I got to save it there's an event coming up with the the DJs getting ready for Gold Rush and so I'm super excited about that one I'll be there I'll be wearing my neelon hat hey um speaking of Gold Rush so you've got gold rush on the horizon 2 uh what are you most excited about what do you have planned what's coming next for you uh the most excited I'm about truly is to I'm making this video I'm gonna announce it about a month before but it's I'm getting every single person to send me a video of them doing something that they love and I'm going to make that my visuals for like the last 10 15 minutes just this huge Montage um everyone that sends me a video is GNA be in it um awesome yeah I wouldn't be here without you guys and and the fans and the community and I want you all to know that we made it here together um so that's probably what I'm most excited about but to just sharing the stage with um some really cool artists you know uh with the chain smokers and ganja White and less so and I just you know it feels really cool to be um a part of that lineup so I'm just super grateful to be there absolutely I got my tickets already I'm super pumped you know for this video submission for the visuals that you're doing what are the specs on that how long do you want your fans uh to video what they're doing what kind of passion are you looking for I'm going to I like it's hard to say you know if if like 10 people send me something then be you know I don't know it's if if 500 people send me a video it's you know it's going to have to be I don't know how long each but but at least I can imagine you know visually like five seconds you know it you know a 5c clip of you doing something you love it's gonna transition to the next person so it's just going to be this huge thing but it needs to be you know landscape you know going to be like that so it can be on the big screen um but just whatever like if you like to run if you like to no pun intended if you like to dance if you like to play guitar if you like to DJ whatever you like to hang out with your kids and um whatever it is you know I think I'm doing what I love um which is performing for you guys and um following my dreams and whatever you like to do and enjoy is what I want to show on screen that's amazing well I'll definitely send you a video and uh neel's easy to get hold of he's one of those people who is you know you reach out to him and say hey I have a thing I have an idea and he will absolutely come to join in and uh make it an artistic dream definitely I love it so um one of our last questions here is do you have any advice for the communities and specifically before this segment I interviewed the uh co-founders for the Rave daddy app any advice for the Rave daddy users oo um yeah one I think that just for one advice on life advice you know follow your dreams follow your passions go after it you only are able to do these these Earthly things um here and so whether that's whatever it is you can only do it on Earth is what we're doing each day and so I think it's very important to to go after that and you know it's your life and take ownership of that um in a more concert setting you know I'm a huge believer in just channeling your natural energy nice you know we don't need um to do other things to feel good all the time you know sometimes we can just you know be in the moment you know who we are as human beings and how our brains naturally operate are really fun you know being around people dancing and listening to music um is really all you need you know to to feel good I can't imagine a better thing it's very uniting um so it's always like focusing on those don't allow yourself to be you know your your day to change because of a substance or you know like one thing I always laugh at because I'm I love music I don't know if you can tell I'm someone when I get to a festival like I'm there for the music you know and go to go straight to the artist that you want go get in the crowd right away get settled in and don't worry about hitting the drink station don't worry about this like come in come ready and just live in the moment I love it just live in the Moment DJ neelen yeah quote of the day quote of the day that's going to be the tagline for this podcast but just enjoy yourself I think def my dad always told me this um and I you know wish I had taken his advice a lot but you know he'd call me and I'd I don't know be on a trip or be with a in on a date or what whatever it is and always just just remember to en enjoy yourself and enjoy the moment because you can never go back to those moments um no matter what right we could be at Gold Rush and those people around you it will only happen once and I promise definitely so I'm a big fan of building good memories you know we look back on some of our moments and they're amazing and sometimes you know they're less than amazing and how we came out of it is a story too and so um whatever your moment is you know build good memories enjoy the people around you neelson it's been amazing to have you on as our episode one guest do you have any parting shots anything you want to say that you don't think you got a chance to say anything you think the listener should hear from your lips uh just say you all matter we're all unique in our own ways have our own abilities and you can really carve your own destiny um as long as you're doing it with pure intentions and you're treating others around you in a positive way than anything's possible awesome what a great way to sign off I love that answer um thank you for coming on the Rave daddy ready VIP of course thank you so much subcribing me looking forward to hanging out with you soon yes bye have a good one [Music]